Advice on specific blue merle Pem breeders

Discussion in 'General Puppy Discussions' started by amynumber6, May 3, 2015.

  1. ZeldaTheCorgi

    ZeldaTheCorgi Member

    Also, when you think of "breeding for fluffies"... I don't think there are breeders who actually breed for fluffies. Unless dogs are tested for the gene (which they rarely are since it is not a gene with health consequences) there is no way of knowing which dogs are carriers since it is recessive. In Oakley's litter the other boy was a fluffy corgi and it was the moms first litter although the sire had been bred multiple times already. They had no idea that both dogs were heterozygous for the gene and ended up with the fluffy. The breeder had also bred the mom's half-sister to the same sire (at the same time, litters 3 weeks apart) and there were two fluffies in that litter! So, a total of 3 fluffies they had absolutely no idea they would get because the breeder had purchased both dogs from another breeder with no fluffies in their line. You honestly couldn't tell the difference between standard coat and fluffy until they were about 6-7 weeks old. Obviously, the fluffy corgis are not bred and they were all pets with spay/neuter contracts. Although if you want to get scientific, you could breed a fluffy to a standard as long as the standard has two dominant alleles (which would require testing). The only puppies produced from such a cross would be heterozygous for fluff but have standard coats. I just don't think the "risk" of producing fluffies is worth genetic testing.
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2016
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  2. ZeldaTheCorgi

    ZeldaTheCorgi Member

    Sorry for the double post, but many breeders still dock because they don't know what the corgi will be doing, meaning if it will be a pet or if it will be put to work on a ranch. Tails are traditionally docked because corgis are so low to the ground with such long tails there is a high risk of the tail being stepped on while herding and the dog getting sucked under livestock and trampled. While it may seem inhumane for corgis who are pets, the risk to working corgis is high and the tails are docked as a safety precaution. Most breeders would rather have the tail dock done when the dog is 3 days old than have the dog be crushed to death while doing its job.
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  3. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    There are a few breeders in the USA who do breed fluffies and use fluffies for breeding whereas a fluffy male or female Corgi should never be bred from. There is no need to take the situation any further than desisting from using a fluffy for breeding and promoting fluffies among the public. But this is not to say that one cannot own a fluffy. And they are usually very sweet.

    Precious few Pembroke Corgis are used for herding world wide as fully fledged farm working dogs and the number is dwindling. But what is good for a Cardigan over a period of 2300 years is good for a Pembroke and if a tailed Cardi can successfully fulfil herding duties with techniques closely resembling Pems then the risk factor of damaging a tail is worth it. A severely damaged tail can be removed.
    Last edited: Oct 2, 2016

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