Corgi smells wet

Discussion in 'Grooming & Care' started by ratgirl610, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. ratgirl610

    ratgirl610 Junior Member

    Does anyone else have a Corgi that smells like wet dog constantly? My Mo Mo is almost 3 and he always smells like wet dog. I've tried oatmeal shampoos on him, dog safe scented shampoos, and sprays but he still stinks! He just smalls like wet dog and eggs. I feed him Purina One healthy weight formula because that is what he was on when I got him a year and a half ago. We changed him to just plain boiled chicken and white rice and still nothing changed. He gets his anal glads done as much as possible, but he tried to eat the vet when she does it so he has to be muzzled. Taking him to a groomer would be a bad idea because if he doesn't know you and you try going near his feet, butt or belly he gets aggressive. And he just plain hates the dryers. So I wash him at home with a hose, Adams flea shampoo followed by an oatmeal bath once a month(i even tried using my blow dryer on cool to dry him). Plus 3-5 times a week he gets brushed with a de-shedding brush and a comb. I tried giving him a bath more often and it didn't help. To top that off he gets dirty ears. He gets brown gook in his ears that I clean daily, vet said its just ear dirt nothing bad. And now his right eyes has a tendency to seep every so often, but once again vet said nothing to worry about unless its an everyday thing. He just stinks haha. Any ideas on how to cut through corgi stink?
     
  2. Peggy

    Peggy Senior Member

    No, in fact most corgis don't have much smell, even a doggy smell unless they are dirty.

    Have you discussed this with your vet? It might be something medical/internal.

    Also after a bath you might try rinsing him with vinegar. The vinegar smell will dissipate as he dries.

    Is it possible that he is rolling in something in the yard? That could happen even after a bath.

    It takes at least 2 weeks for there to be a change in the dog when you change food.

    Why does he need them done so often? If he's eating correctly and eliminating as he should he should not need his anal glands expressed often. (or as much as possible, whatever that means).

    Really? Not ear mites? Not a yeast infection? And a yeast infection could cause him to smell. Maybe a grain free food? Often that will prevent yeast infections (it works great for my son's Labrador). However, the yeast infection will need to be cleared up too. I'd suggest a second opinion from a different vet. JMO.

    Some corgis do this. Possibly dirt in his eyes from dust. Possibly an allergy. If the discharge from the eye is clear, nothing to worry about. If it's not clear, then he needs to see the vet.

    Something's not right. A clean, healthy corgi doesn't stink. As I said they don't even have the "doggy smell" that many dogs have. You need to get a second opinion and/or change his food and see if that helps. I'd really look into a yeast infection.

    Peggy
     
  3. ratgirl610

    ratgirl610 Junior Member

    Thanks Peggy! I'm taking him to a different vet in a week to get his annual shots, I'll make sure to ask about the yeast infection! Thank You!:grin:
     
  4. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    If your Corgi has a foul or very doggy smell that is there not because he is dirty or has rubbed himself in something mucky, then he probably has a skin disorder ie it is likely caused through an overly oily skin problem. Your vet though should be able to pick this up. If it is a superficial problem the answer is to bath him with special (specific) shampoo for oily skin and coat once every three or four weeks and to change his diet. But it could be for a number of other reasons pertaining to the health of the skin and for these you need to consult with a vet.



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  5. Dillydoodle

    Dillydoodle Senior Member

    I would second the change in food and maybe go with a grain free food. It sounds like allergies since there is ear and eye involvement. It could also be some underlying infection, bacterial infection or yeast infection. I am glad to hear that you will get another vet to check him out.

    Emilie
     
  6. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    The problem with food allergies in regard to recommending a grain-free diet, is that grain is not the number 1 - or 2-3-4 major issue with food when it comes to allergies.



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  7. Dillydoodle

    Dillydoodle Senior Member

    Right, whatever, Michael. It is an easy thing to check.. Switch food to grain free and see if the skin and smell clear up. It can't hurt to try. There are more grain allergies than you would like to believe. Until you can post a study with actual sources and links to prove your case, I will continue to believe what I believe based on info I have read, rather than take your word for it.

    Emilie
     
  8. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    The list of food items that can possibly cause allergies with dogs are well documented as is their order of frequency. The fact of the matter regarding allergies is that whilst food allergies are increasing with humans - mainly children - and also with dogs,there is a small chance that dogs will suffer from food allergies and in the spectrum of all types of allergies, food is not the major reason for a dog with allergies.






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  9. Gally

    Gally Senior Member

    "Several studies have shown that some ingredients are more likely to cause food allergies than others. In order of the most common offenders in dogs are beef, dairy products, chicken, lamb, fish, chicken eggs, corn, wheat, and soy."

    I'd be happy to post a bunch of links on the subject when I get home from vacation. Remember there is a difference between allergies and intolerance
     
  10. Gally

    Gally Senior Member

    Many dogs lack enough of the proper enzymes for breaking down grains as a recent study has shown some dogs have no more capabilities of breaking down grains than do wolves. Yet There are some dogs out there with a bit more of the proper enzymes who may be better at processing grain yet no where near as efficient as humans.

    An intolerance to grains can result in diarrhea and vomiting which may be mistaken as allergy symptoms.
     
  11. LaRogue

    LaRogue Senior Member

    As Peggy posted, corgis are known as a "clean" breed and they don't smell, but I've had 2 stinky corgis. In both cases, the smell was caused by something.

    One had a medical condition and the other (Pip) was food. Both were completely resolved when the one dog was properly diagnosed and treated and, for Pip, I switched food. With the food, Pip (who does have food allergies) was NOT allergic or intolerant to any of the listed ingredients. Other corgi owners reported their (non allergic) dogs also had B.O., when eating that particular brand, along with 1 or 2 other brands. This was a long time ago (2005) and it remained an unsolved mystery that we chocked up to something in the processing, quality of ingredients, cross contamination, or something in the food that was not listed on the bag.
    Absolutely true. Food allergies are caused by the body misidentifying a substance as an invader and attacking itself. As Gally posted, an intolerance is the inability to break down a food, IBD, mal absorption, etc. Two completely different things, often mistaken for one another.

    Personally, I would give the suggestion of trying grain free food a try and give it 2-3 months to take effect. *If* it's a food allergen problem, it can take that long for all the residues, of the old food, to leave the body.

    I also second the advise to think about a new vet.
    Yeasty ears are said to be common sign of corn allergy. If they are infected they will smell. Not sure if this is the case with Mo Mo or not, but his ears should really not be getting that dirty, without cause.

    Now, I will admit :blush:, I used to *give* my dogs ear problems (ear mites or infection), when I cleaned them with ear cleaning solution. It was operator error on my part and I no longer "clean" ears. I just wipe them out with a rolled up edge of the towel after baths or, on the very rare occasions I see a bit of dirt, I wipe it out with a dry towel. I have not had a dog with a single ear problem since I stopped "cleaning" their ears.
    If it's one eye, it's probably dirt or something getting into it. Pip does have runny eyes (among other things) as a symptom of a couple of his allergies, although almost everyone says runny eyes are not a symptom of allergies (in my experience they can be), but it is BOTH eyes. It occurs immediately after eating and usually clears up 1-2 hours afterwards. He is a dry eyed corgi, but will occasionally have one or both eyes water, but it's usually on windy days, when it seems dirt or dust gets blown into his eyes.
     
  12. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    Dilly (Emilie) "likes" what Gally as posted (without references) in listing the order of frequency with food allergy items but apparently rejects it when I have previously posted the same or similar listings. And Emilie once again questions my ascertaining that such a list exists and that certain grain foods do not feature in the top three-four items.

    What hypocrisy. But keep it up because it is all fun and games.



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  13. Gally

    Gally Senior Member

    I hope I have some reputation for doing my own research and providing reliable sources. As I said previously I promise to post full links when I return from vacation as copying multiple things from a cell is rather difficult and I don't have my bookmarks. Whether people want to believe those sources or not is completely up to them.
     
  14. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    "Sources" can mean anything. Many people source things back to me. My particular main sources for allergies in general is a leading group of American vets, a particular reputable ans scholarly NZ vet and a leading world authority on canine nutrition who is also a vet.




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  15. Peggy

    Peggy Senior Member

    Anyone who posts reliable sources with names attached is more credible IMO. It's much better than some nameless vets or scholar or whoever. And it's always up to the person reading to decide if the info is credible. But IMO, when you can post several links or sources that have the same ideas and are not quoting one another, that gives more credibility.

    Peggy
     
  16. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    Peggy - you are not just a "Doubting Thomas" but I dare say you don't give credence to your own eyes and ears. For years you and Emilie have held no belief in what allergy lists are being promoted in the order of what is most common.




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  17. Peggy

    Peggy Senior Member

    Common Dog Allergies ? A Quick List

    From this site: Dog Food Allergies | Frequently Asked Questions
    "What are the most common causes of dog food allergies?
    Dog food ingredients most likely to provoke an allergic reaction1 include…
    Beef
    Dairy
    Chicken
    Lamb
    Fish
    Corn
    Wheat
    Soy
    Yeast"

    It doesn't say however, which are the most common. It only lists the common ones.

    Help Your Dog Overcome These 3 Common Dog Allergies

    List of Dog Food Allergies | eHow
    List of Canine Allergies | eHow

    I don't see anything that lists the allergies in order of the most common to less common. Lots of info on treating allergies, food allergies, "hypo"allergic dogs for people with allergies....

    Peggy
     
  18. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    That us your version. I have dealt with specialists who list in the order that they have knowledge of and they are very similar with each other in the order to which they place from top to bottom. One of the items is '"any protein" and wheat comes in ahead of corn.


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  19. Dillydoodle

    Dillydoodle Senior Member

    People source you? Hahahaha. That is hilarious. I mean, who is going to source someone who shares no sources and pulls his info out of his rear? Don't break your arm trying to stroke your ego....

    I have seen over the years that gally provides information with links to source information. So do I trust her knowledge more than your undocumented and often outrageous claims? you betcha I do. If you also noticed from a previous post, she is on vacation and did say she would post links when she got back, so I am sure that unlike you, she will actually follow through and post some links. The same way that when Peggy posts here I know that the info she is giving is either documented or from personal first hand experience over many years of corgi experience.

    And lastly, I have done my own reading on the subject, and what I have read agrees with gally, thus the reason I liked her post. I am not sure why I feel like I owe you any explanation here, but there it is.


    Emilie
     
  20. LaRogue

    LaRogue Senior Member

    No one, ordered, bonefide list exists. It's impossible to create, since every single dog that doesn't do well on a particular food isn't thoroughly tested (vet supervised home cooked food elimination diet is the most accurate) to determine the "real" cause. The vast majority of people get a suggestion to switch foods for a first step (as is happening in this thread) and if works, it's good times again and no further action is ever taken. The stats and lists are mostly derived from more severely effected dogs who a simple food changes doesn't work for, where more testing is done to find out what is "really" going on with the dog and from (often skewed) owner self reports.

    Ten different lists can give 10 different answers and all anyone really knows (as was stated) are the most common allergens that keep showing up, time after time, in testing and are the most common in self reported by owners.
     

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