Discussion in 'General Corgi Discussions' started by Jax, Nov 18, 2013.

  1. Jax

    Jax Junior Member

    Hey everyone, Milo is now 4 months old and I've been walking him pretty regularly usually anywhere from 3kms to 6kms comprised of walk/jog mixed per day. I'm just wondering if that is too much exercise? Or will Milo tell me when hes pooped? Some days I take him out 3-4 times because I'm either bored or cannot sleep. When hes back from his walk, he usually knocks out for a couple of hours lol...

    I've started to build tunnels and small obstacles in the backyard for him to run around in... he likes to go under things and FRAPs often in the backyard.

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  2. Louwants

    Louwants Senior Member

    Is that like 3-6 miles? At 4 months, that is quite a bit. Usually that is done with an adult dog. No wonder he crashes for a couple of hours...LOL!

    Well, we always say a tired corgi is a happy corgi. If you don't keep them occupied, they will find something that will, and it usually isn't good.
  3. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    This is an overkill of exercising and puppyhood. Corgi puppies should be allowed to develop into adults carefully.

    Corgi puppies under the age of 8 months should not be walked on-leash or off-leash for more than 30 minutes a day divided into more than one walk. 2.5 km should take around 30 minutes.

    A Corgi puppy of four months does not need agility training but going through tunnels is ok. A Corgi puppy inder six months should not be encouraged to jump and should not be allowed to go up and down stairs.

    A junior and adult Corgi from 10 months or age and over should get into a daily quality-paced walking exercise dosage or 45 minutes-1.5 hours with perhaps a longer walk once a week. I have taken my Corgi, Taylor on overnight hikes/tramps on several occasions.

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  4. Jax

    Jax Junior Member

    3-6km is roughly 2-4 miles.
    The thing is he doesn't seem tired one bit when we are walking. Hell, if we run around I lose my breath before he even starts to pant.

    Well.. if I don't exercise him he just gets bored and starts to destroy things around the house.
    I play tug rope with him too, is that bad too??

    Like what are you supposed to do with a puppy? Feed it and watch it grow? Why can't he go up stairs by himself?
    Milo plays with other dogs and runs around with them all the time. Should I not let him play with other dogs either?
  5. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    Your dog owning skills need some re-education.

    Go back to the art of raising children and that is much like raising a puppy. You don't let a baby crawl or walk a toddler for long distances and long periods just to tire them out. You don't submit a young child to play American football or rugby union with adult rules and regulations. Children's growing and strengthening bones and muscles are carefully nurtured.
    A parent would not let a toddler or under five year old child go on and on in boisterous play.

    So align these aspects towards your puppy and realise that puppyhood is the most important stage of any dog -- they need the best appropriate food, the best rest and sleeping periods, the best appropriate play, the best appropriate training. Training is a multiple daily thing using the reward and praise methods and always ending positively and followed with playtime.

    Toys are important - toys that are challenging (puzzle toys), that are inter-active, that are tough enough to withstand the fiercest chewer. Why, in the USA (and available anywhere in the world that is set up to take in USA channels) is a 24/7 dog television channel. There are also dog CDs and dog DVDs. There are puppy (training and socialising) schools.

    The best of times with a dog is in their short stage as a puppy.

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  6. Louwants

    Louwants Senior Member

    Going upstairs isn't as bad as going downstairs. With dwarf dogs, you have to be careful the first 6-8 months of their growth plates in their legs.

    One way is to feed them a good all stages dog food or large breed dog food. The protein in puppy food will make them grow quicker the growth plates in their legs and cause trouble. I learned this through experience. Duncan was about 4 months old and started limping. Thinking he may have a torn ACL, I took him to my vet. Just by luck, he had a corgi, and told me about the food. I put him on adult food and no problems. I should warn you, what I just told you will start an epic war of dog food with some people on this site, so look back in the forums about feeding.

    If your dog has all his shots, it's fine to let him mingle with other dogs. It's great for social skills. A puppy kindergarten is also good for it. Enroll in obedience classes, it will help you and your dog bond and corgis are very intelligent dogs. If you don't keep the upper hand, they will rule the roost. Corgis need a firm, but gentle and consistent training. TRUST ME!!! LOL! Hubby didn't listen and he has his hands full with my dog, Duncan. With me, who know who is boss.
  7. wuzzup

    wuzzup Senior Member

    I've been walking my corgis, twice a day, 3-4 miles, total, for years and years. Exercise and a fresh food diet (PS: makes sure you add plenty of water) are the best preventative medicine for both dogs and people. That many miles for a young dog? That may be pushing it a bit, I think, but if the pace is not too fast and there's no signs of exhaustion...I seldom take my guys during the heat of day; early AM and evenings, always. Workouts never more than one hr. each. When off leash, if they fall well behind, that's usually the sign. PEMs look cute and cuddly but I assure you, they are studs. We've done 8 mile hikes in high altitude, no problem. Just bring lots of food and water. They're lousy pack-hauling dogs, though, so I have to carry.
  8. Jax

    Jax Junior Member

    Thanks you Louwants & wuzzup for your responses.

    @Louwants: Milo is currently on Wellness SuperMix5 adult food. The first month or so, I mixed a little puppy food with the adult food but now hes fully on adult food. He meets a lot of other dogs on our walks and made tons of friends, however I think I will enroll him in a class since I will have to tone down his walks to roughly a Mile a day. Milo isn't coaxed or allowed to go down the stairs and we've been carrying him. However going up the stairs we have let him do that the past 2 weeks or so. I thought it wasn't that bad.

    @wuzzup: He seems so excited to go on walks. He knows which door he goes out of for his walks and sometimes he just sits there staring at you. When we take him out we stop often, but he always goes and truggs ahead and looks back to see if you're following.
  9. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    I wouldn't be giving a puppy "all-stages" processed dog food which is ok for adult dogs but puppies need the emphasis on a growing dog that premium puppy stage food should provide.

    By calculations from leading dog food producers, puppy stage food has a particular emphasis on six components that make up the food.

    Stair climbing any excessive or continuous jumping is to be avoided with reference to Corgi puppies under 6 months.

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  10. Louwants

    Louwants Senior Member

    Told you.....
  11. Westwood

    Westwood Senior Member

    I wouldn't walk him more than a mile or two at that age, and I definitely wouldn't jog until he's closer to a year. You don't want to put too much stress on growing bones and joints, or you could end up with health issues later down the road. We also limited the amount of stairs our pups did until they were closer to 6 months old.

    Is there anywhere you can take him where he can just run freely? I'd allow him as much free exercise as he wants, but don't force him to run even if he seems okay with it. Training and/or puppy classes are great for tiring them out too.

    He's a little young to be on an adult food IMO, unless it's an all life stages formula.
  12. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    Westwood is right on the button apart from this dreaded recommendation of "all stages" food thing for puppies and even (but not so critical) for seniors (defined as the last 25% of a dog's life).

    Specially formulated premium processed food for puppies is fairly essential and provides the best start in life for dogs - provided that the make-up of the ingredients are a true reflection on what a puppy should be getting for the best results. To give a puppy an all-stages formula which is by definition designed more appropriately for dogs from age 10-11 months up to 12 years, is not achieving the best preparation of a puppy for adulthood. But I suppose it will do for owners who are less concerned for the very best care of their Corgis.

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  13. Louwants

    Louwants Senior Member

    I meant to say a large breed puppy food in my earlier statement. My mistake
  14. Michael Romanos

    Michael Romanos Active Member Staff Member Moderator

    I don't subscribe to Corgis getting "large dog" processed dog kibble or canned dog food. They should get what is relevant for their size and standard weight and I subscribe to the people who say that under 40 pounds (and almost all Corgis should be under 30 pounds) constitutes a small dog (as opposed to toy dogs). With premium dog food, large dogs have (or should have) a slightly different food formula to medium and small dogs.
    However if you are giving a Corgi a dog biscuit as a treat or as a snack then I prefer large biscuits to medium or small simply because I feel that a large biscuit present s a better 'challenge' for a Corgi.

    I have noted a Corgi appearing on the packaging of several processed dry foods and all have been in relationship to small size dogs - so these producers should know something.

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